Ever fall in love with a massage girl

[junior_cannibal]

Originally Posted by lonelyfish

Then it means for single guys who have a job enough to lead a normal life, all the MLs will accept?

Basically I find there are several types of MLs. Those that already offer extras in their menu, or those that don't. Those already offering, just have $ to pay for it will do. But those who don't, sometimes even you wanna pay, you don't get it. And if they eventually give it to you, you be surprised that it is way worth it.

While I don't deny or disagree with what you mentioned about the different types of ML, over the years, I already chose to take their words with a pinch of salt.
I don't offer specials to my other clients, but you are different.
I don't want your money cause it's not a transaction....
Anyway, this is just a forum, no right or wrong in terms of opinion.
Don't be too serious about comments
Chill.

[evoralliart]

And with regards to this title.
Just yesterday. I was on WhatsApp with one of my ex ML in which on avg I meet up with her every week outside. Sometimes on super odd hours like super early morning and pick her up in my car.

Booked her for CNY day 1 and she said she shld be free to meet but she expects an ang bao (red packet). I was disappointed at that point of time cos she was upfront about it. Saying that CNY day one, if she receives ang bao, symbolise luck. Disappointing in the sense that it is about the money and not the time spent although she’s no longer in that line.

Next question is. How much she expecting? Cannot be the market rate we give to our parents, kids，relatives of on avg $12-$20 right. Because of this, I am having second thoughts to meet her on CNY already. So let’s see. So how many bros intend to meet their MLs on CNY and give them red packets?

[evoralliart]

Also try… ask them out for a simple meal, exercising, movies

Bet most of them will reject since they don’t earn any $$ when accompanying the person. But it will be different if you ask them out for sex, they will be keen since there’s sth for them to earn

[ssd3469]

Originally Posted by lonelyfish

Paying vs not paying. Obviously if you don't need to pay (or pay less), it is more worth it in the view of commercial sex.

wow can get sex from Ml without paying?

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by ssd3469

wow can get sex from Ml without paying?

It is very possible thing that is with regards to the title of this thread. There are bros who manage to achieve this. The point of getting into the relationship with the ML is not to pay for the sex. You do spend on her in some other ways like simple gifts, treat for meals etc, but it can be way lesser than to keep paying for it as a service outright.

If you have a place that you can use, you can also omit the entrance fees by bringing her back to keep with you. It's like bringing your gf back to spend the night. To reach this stage, it takes a lot of time and effort to build the chemistry. Actually it is quite the same as getting a real gf but much easier to start on the part about approaching the girl. It does not work on the MLs who already intend to earn from this, you need the suitable target, which are usually those which are neglected.

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by junior_cannibal

While I don't deny or disagree with what you mentioned about the different types of ML, over the years, I already chose to take their words with a pinch of salt.
I don't offer specials to my other clients, but you are different.
I don't want your money cause it's not a transaction....
Anyway, this is just a forum, no right or wrong in terms of opinion.
Don't be too serious about comments
Chill.

Of course not serious about the comments. I don't encounter many of such MLs after trying out so many. Most of the MLs I tried are those I think with potential to have a kind of "relationship" not those MLs or SYTs that are offering specials easily. Quite a lot of them outright reject further advances. Actually there was a SYT with potential to build a relationship but I already have my PRC which will RTC soon and my current ML.

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by ssd3469

wow can get sex from Ml without paying?

Not without paying. Just paying later at greater cost. Better to pay. The act of money changing hands is a reminder to both parties things are just at the commercial level.

Just like paying the H81 transit fee is the small cost for protecting your privacy. If you bring the girl home, it exposes your address and she may come hound you in future.

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by evoralliart

Also try… ask them out for a simple meal, exercising, movies

Bet most of them will reject since they don’t earn any $$ when accompanying the person. But it will be different if you ask them out for sex, they will be keen since there’s sth for them to earn

I have done this with success with my PRC and current ML . And they don't even earn from the sex with me. At least, I didn't need to pay. Of course, most of them will reject.

If they leave, I'm going to be deprived. it is very difficult to find a ML like this.

[Newsasap]

Originally Posted by lonelyfish

I have done this with success with my PRC and current ML . And they don't even earn from the sex with me. At least, I didn't need to pay. Of course, most of them will reject.

If they leave, I'm going to be deprived. it is very difficult to find a ML like this.

Bro, many are tired to hear your old stories, your old girl you set her free also she will stick to you. Tell us more with new challenge new target.

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by Newsasap

Bro, many are tired to hear your old stories, your old girl you set her free also she will stick to you. Tell us more with new challenge new target.

Actually, I may not have plans to get a new target for the time being. I want to increase my frequency with her and see if I can get into trouble. But I have a previous ML which I unlock halfway who may come back from China after CNY in Feb or Mar. Either I will continue to unlock her, or I may source for a girl from another place to try and stop chionging.

[Shadow_warrior]

Originally Posted by Newsasap

Bro, many are tired to hear your old stories, your old girl you set her free also she will stick to you. Tell us more with new challenge new target.

who is many? haha, I am not....bros are sharing. its what the forum is for bro.

to get it out of your system, if not on SBF then where? hiding behind the screen you can tell your deepest thoughts, fears.

Its all good, share away bros, I see many parallels with the road you have travelled.

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost

[Shadow_warrior]

Originally Posted by Newsasap

Those ladies were abandoned by men for some reasons:
- Weird character / rude
- halitosis
- smelly cunt
- airport
- money face
- gambler
- clubbing
- big spender
- no bed performance
Etc, any of these is a turn off that is why their men left them. Same to the men, the ladies just leave us for the same reasons

Too many mls said, men cannot be trust, no matter how good he is he will still be flirting. 男人的本性。

okay, this is quite a comprehensive list. but there is much truth

With regards to one of the OT girl I dated, that was the longest fling.

- Weird character / rude ( I called them damaged, normally with little education, PSLE maybe? Might even have failed that, always bad tempered, breaks up over nothing)
- airport (Was a A, when I met her, sometimes she is a small B)
- money face- yes, selfish and was always just in for her, never us. There is no concept of us when you date a sex worker. There's only them/her.
- gambler - yes, lose all, sell her body for more money, gamble again.
- clubbing - Yes and no. She used to go to clubs and flirt, get drunk with men.
- big spender - yes, lots of branded stuff and demands men to get her branded too.

So yes, to add
- Flirt, can never be faithful. It could be because the guys is slick in the casino, or disco, or anywhere she meets, is sweet talking, tells her what she wants to hear. Like I said, not much in the intelligence region, Doesn't take alot to get her take off her knickers
- Cunning
- Perpetual Liar
- Serial Cheater(if you get involved with them)
- Drug addict(k, 5, e, cough mixture)

[UGotTalent]

Originally Posted by evoralliart

And with regards to this title.
Just yesterday. I was on WhatsApp with one of my ex ML in which on avg I meet up with her every week outside. Sometimes on super odd hours like super early morning and pick her up in my car.

Booked her for CNY day 1 and she said she shld be free to meet but she expects an ang bao (red packet). I was disappointed at that point of time cos she was upfront about it. Saying that CNY day one, if she receives ang bao, symbolise luck. Disappointing in the sense that it is about the money and not the time spent although she’s no longer in that line.

Next question is. How much she expecting? Cannot be the market rate we give to our parents, kids，relatives of on avg $12-$20 right. Because of this, I am having second thoughts to meet her on CNY already. So let’s see. So how many bros intend to meet their MLs on CNY and give them red packets?

Their China Ang bao market rate is around RMB $50 to $100, S$10 to S$20, village will be worst, poor relatives will give less than S$5. Give her $28 will do for gd luck or RMB$100.

[junior_cannibal]

Originally Posted by evoralliart

And with regards to this title.
Just yesterday. I was on WhatsApp with one of my ex ML in which on avg I meet up with her every week outside. Sometimes on super odd hours like super early morning and pick her up in my car.

Booked her for CNY day 1 and she said she shld be free to meet but she expects an ang bao (red packet). I was disappointed at that point of time cos she was upfront about it. Saying that CNY day one, if she receives ang bao, symbolise luck. Disappointing in the sense that it is about the money and not the time spent although she’s no longer in that line.

Next question is. How much she expecting? Cannot be the market rate we give to our parents, kids，relatives of on avg $12-$20 right. Because of this, I am having second thoughts to meet her on CNY already. So let’s see. So how many bros intend to meet their MLs on CNY and give them red packets?

While you wish your r/s is like FB or BFGF that has no string, FOC, she might not think likewise. If I were you, and if I used to bonk her not on a pay per session, then there's no big deal she's asking for a Angbao for CNY.
If you have been giving her money each time you bonk her, then the more an Angbao is no big deal.
If I were you, I would have prepared one but won't give her immediately upon meeting, but after the deed.
If she's more keen in getting the Angbao the moment you meet, then that explains itself. Also, it's even clearer if she opens the Angbao and complains the amount is too little. Then you can write her off leh.

[snake-eater]

Bro, I think ML request give angpow is already considered lucky and normal. Last year when i met my ML on cny day 1, she wants me bring her go MBS shopping.knowing her taste,I may end up spending hundreds to thousands. In the end I drove drop her off and i find reasons to excuse myself.🤣