Danger Signs! Need Help!

[japboy]

brudder, jz dun think 2 much n take one step at a time...

call it sport hunting.. where u hunt without brutally killing d prey or kena killed by d prey....

gals using d GF feelings are abound nowadays n pl do not be amazed at wat kind of gurellia tactics they can use on guys...

i think u r still not up 2 playing w PRC gals yet... prehaps jz take one step at a time n c wat happens w dis gal n treat it as a training gnd 4 more of ur future PRC MMs...

u really nid 2 test her 2 c whether how long d line is w u at d wrong end o dat there's really no line ... first time is always d most beautiful so take ur time 2 enjoy d whole process n look ard, rather than heading towards ur end goal in god-speed...

rem illusions of love are always there 2 tempt u... but u have 2 differentiate wat's true n wat's fake...

jz dun over-analyse ur situation... u r not gonna marry her tmr so dun think abt her using u as a stepping stone yet... but jz keep an eye on ur wallet while keeping another on her bosoms... kekekeke... enjoy n let us know how's d progress gng....

[tanterry]

Later when you fell for her... you would face something like that...

unless you are willing to bao her, else you will always worry about what she is doing on 24 hour basis. Basic maintaince is about 2K+ to cover rent/work permit or student fees/expenses, and which yet to include gifts and date expenses...

[medicheng]

one thing first... if u really together with that AA, will u mind her past?

[kukujiao]

Haha PRC girls character is always questionable..... Beware , I think she is trying to put a small fish on a hook to ctach a bigger fish. Beware..... Your friends are no good, they trying to sabo you.

[OceanEleven]

Bro Ignite, I know where are you coming from. Regardless of whoever the gal is, as long as your GF is the same, you will still be in this dilemma. The reason is simple, deep in your heart; you knew what you want a GF to be, you met someone closer to what you want, and you are smitten by all the overwhelming feelings but the binding rope is your GF, she is not exactly what you would desire but for the time being together, commitment and responsibilities (monetary, families, sexual etc.) you are coming to terms for a solution. The whole matter is further complicated by AA status, it is like a gamble, and you know what are your bets but not the odds.

Take a step at a time, PRCs tell lies but mainly for a living, depending on what you want and how much you willing to give. Remember all lies comes from a moment of greed and lust, if you want something from her, then you are giving others a chance to take a dig at you. Bear in mind, when one who do not desire, there is no lost nor gain. If you approach her as a girlfriend and willing to cut your heart out for her, then be prepare to be the lamb to the slaughter. Anyway, time is on your hand. Why the hurry to find out how she feel, why not invest more time to understand each other. I guess you did not woo your present GF by showering cash. I suggest if you feel for her, you can date her as a normal friend, she will ask for money if that is her motive, else let’s see if this will blossom into something else.

PRCs are humans too, they are here for money, and yes I agree. But not all cheat and lied their way around. If given the choice, you think they want to do this at all? We all batter them saying they cheat, con and lied but why not the other way round when you got it from locals? Think about it, why most have the same sad tale to share why they are here? I guess there must be some truth in it, or else who likes to get laid by different man everyday? For me, at least, have not come across one PRC who tell me that she is filthy rich back home, simply enjoys sleeping around with strangers. Whatever they may say, true or bluff is up to one to decipher. Like the NKF fund rising, without a doubt they are genuine case but that does not mean I simply donate and donate. Same for the PRCs, I have a deal with them, paid them more if I like it else all as per agreed. Not because of some tear-jerking story they whip up. Bottom line is, they are human as we are. If we can lust, love, desire, they can too.

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by sadfa

bro,

after reading your posts, so what if she is genuine? u willing to have this ktv ger to be your wife or even gf? if not, whats the problem?

I think this question is really valid. If you eventually found out that both of you are in love, made for each other, soul mates, etc, can you bear the facts of her past?

It may be easy if you met in her China but now its in SG and all your friends know her, knows her past, etc, etc. AAre you able to live with that? Because sooner or later, your family might also know of it, etc.

Remember, its easier said than done.

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

I think this question is really valid. If you eventually found out that both of you are in love, made for each other, soul mates, etc, can you bear the facts of her past?
.

bro, if u think its valid, up me lah!

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by sadfa

bro, if u think its valid, up me lah!

NBzzz, be patient a bit lah...
KNN, SB rule allow only 2 per 24 hrs lah.. still got 12 hrs to go..

[axcel]

Hi Bro Ignite

Let me share with u, my story.... i am open to comments by other brothers too. I am also in the same dilemma as you. long story..... but here goes.

I met this PRC girl in a KTV in singapore too. it was her 1st trip here. anyway, got on pretty well and sadly she needed to go back on 4th Dec back to shanghai. She is in this line... for family reasons (not sure whether its true). anyway, i am also like you, asia pacific oriented job, need to fly, am already 33, BUT at least i am single with no GF.

anyway, after she went back, we kept contact on to and fro sms and actually we made a pact to spend christmas together. (as i needed to go shanghai too for business trip). arrived on 18th Dec and stayed till 28th Dec. and throughout the 11 days, she accompanied me throughout and did not go to work. when i arrived on the first day, she already bought me a RMB600 sweater to keep me warm, but it was too small... (inside my head i was thinking, when i bring to change she is going to ask me to go shopping, but surprisingly NO!) she said let's go back to the room since you are tired and i said "why dont we eat dinner" (testing whether she would order expensive stuff again), she told me she would bring me to her fav place for dinner (yah, most likely an expensive restaurant).... but surprisingly, it was only a curry cafe only spent RMB$40 on the dinner.

throughout the 11 days, we did the BG/GF things like see shows, meals together.... and to be frank, she did not even want to go shopping..... she saw my casual shoes (mocchassins) were spoilt and when i came back from the office, she already bought a NEW pair for me (i think it was about RMB$500 as she showed me)...... felt bad, but just kept quiet.... therefore i told her i would buy her something in return..... and she only chose a lisptick, and a pair of boots that was about RMB$400. what was surprising was that when she saw my friend's girl giving him a Montblanc pen, and she asked me why i did not have one.... i told her i did not have the $$$ to enjoy luxury items..... the next moment, on another day, after i came back from work, i saw a montblanc pen and wallet lying on the table, neatly wrapped by the store... (it is genuine as i verified it)...... it must have cost her RMB$3500.... i told her why she bought it, and she told me that as long as it was someone that she love... its ok..... at this point i was guilt ridden as i have not spent a cent on her yet... in the end bought her to do her hair (she chose the cheapest around) at about RMB$300, and a jacket about RMB$2000.

I did ask her why.... she said she was touched by me when i was in singapore and that i kept my promise to come to shanghai....her friends did warn her about singaporean men, about us fooling around,,,, but decided to take a chance on me......

She also assured me she would be stopping her KTV as she would not want me to be stressed up......(she has already went for a few interviews, arranged by my friends in shanghai)..... btw, she is already 30, but trust me she looks like 23.....

she did tell me that if ever one day we are together.... she does not want to come to singapore as she does not want me or my friends to think she wants a PR..... she is even willing to sign a pre-nuptial agreement to guarantee my assets (although i did tell her that i am in debt, and not a rich person).... brothers..... i am a normal looking person, with a simple lifestyle (the ktv i went was only my 3rd time with business associates)..... i am also in debt (about $20K, which i told her) and she told me its ok as long as when she is with me.... i am debt free.... no savings is ok as she would like to start new with me.... my friends did advise me to push $$$ to her when i leave, but when i broach the subject, like hinting "if u are with me, u would not have any $$$" she say " its ok, and dont give me any $$$, i will leave you, if u do, i truly want to be with you"

during the trip, she did tell me about her past, her BFs relationships and why she came into this line (family was jobless, but now its ok liao....) and was in it for 1.5 year only.

guys, with her looks, she could hook up with anyone (there have been alot of indecent proposals) or that if she wants $$$, she would not choose me, instead asking me to solve my $$$ problems first... if she is after PR, why not hook up with someone who has assets.

since i came back from shanghai, we have been in constant contact and she would call me or sms me throughout the nights just to assure me that she was back in her hostel in shanghai and not with other men.

problem here is that although i like her alot... to the point of falling in love.....i
would be travelling to her hometown this chinese new year to spend some time to get to know her background and family..... and she would be here in late march too......

Bro Ignite.... and brothers.... any comments to my situation ???

[Five Stone]

Originally Posted by axcel

Hi Bro Ignite
Let me share with u, my story.... i am open to comments by other brothers too. I am also in the same dilemma as you. long story..... but here goes.
Bro Ignite.... and brothers.... any comments to my situation ???

Bro, why let such a trivial matter bother you? If you like her, then try to know her, understand her, I am not asking you to go for it but rather treat it as a blossoming BGR. I believe you had bed her during the stay and you are now in Singapore, you can always vanish without a trace. Give her a chance; or rather give yourself a chance.

China is a country where heaven and hell coexist. Everyone is fighting for survival; there will be time of emptiness and the need for a companion, someone who can grow old with, to walk down the paths of life and she might be the someone.

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by axcel

Hi Bro Ignite

Let me share with u, my story.... i am open to comments by other brothers too. I am also in the same dilemma as you. long story..... but here goes.

Bro Ignite.... and brothers.... any comments to my situation ???

bro,

hard to give u the right answer or wat u should do.
this is no different from frens asking whether they should marry their gf or not.

i have to ask again. can u accept an ex-ktv ger as your wife or gf? can your family or relative accept? what if she tell u she bonk very few customers n turns out she lie?

u have already asked her all the things in your mind n tested her. pls dont ask her anymore. gers are a bit sensitive n get du-lan or du-bye when u keep asking them the same things ie do you love me or my money or my citizenship?

only u can make the decision n right or wrong only u can walk the path.

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by sadfa

bro,

hard to give u the right answer or wat u should do.
this is no different from frens asking whether they should marry their gf or not.

i have to ask again. can u accept an ex-ktv ger as your wife or gf? can your family or relative accept? what if she tell u she bonk very few customers n turns out she lie?

u have already asked her all the things in your mind n tested her. pls dont ask her anymore. gers are a bit sensitive n get du-lan or du-bye when u keep asking them the same things ie do you love me or my money or my citizenship?

only u can make the decision n right or wrong only u can walk the path.

AMEN....

KNN, have to be online to wait for the time to up you,

[axcel]

thanks, brother five stone.... i am giving ourselves a chance that is why i am visiting her hometown..... she's been there since 15th Jan, and would be there till 25th Feb..... i would be there on 12th feb to visit her family and then go to guangzhou for holiday with her on 15th to 19th

but do u see any warning signs?? she is easily contactable by me, and btw, when i was with her.... there was no late phone calls or frequent calls..... only from her mama san asking her why is she not working.....and sms from her cousin....

also, she did show me an sms of a guy that asked her to come work in his company, no need to do anything... just take pay and be with him..... she told me if i did not keep my promise to come shanghai..... i would never would have seen her again....

now...its her turn to always check on me.... worried that i might look for a hassle free singaporean girl..... or that i would look for someother fling or that i am not serious

[Five Stone]

Originally Posted by axcel

thanks, brother five stone.... i am giving ourselves a chance that is why i am visiting her hometown..... but do u see any warning signs??
now...its her turn to always check on me.... worried that i might look for a hassle free singaporean girl..... or that i would look for someother fling or that i am not serious

Well, I cant tell though. Like any BGR, never know the truth till the truth is out. One thing I am sure of, it is much harder to cover own tracks than to be one self ie. pretend this, act that, imposting. Also, one has to tell ten more lies to cover one lie. Since you are meeting her again, perhaps take the opportunity to know her more. No harm done right, what's more relaxing than to have a local showing you around.

Bro, ask yourself, social status is not that really important, moroever how many PRCs or FLs that one had bonk and can remember after sometime, probably some but not all so I guess this does not bother you too much. It is easy to find a wife but not a soulmate, someone who appreciate for who you are. Treasure this moment, no one asking you to commit anything, treat it like a BGR and time will tell.

[mtkpnmpk]

Brothers,
not much experience in this but i think it work out only 2 way.

1) the are laying a long line for big fish. it may not be the money, maybe just to get out of china and get a PR. Cause even if u told her u r not rich but they might still be trying as they might think its only a test. seriously on the surface, nobody will think singaporeans are poor, just look at the amount of cars on the road, all new and nice ones, although many get into debt because of that but its the "pai tow" that works.

or

2) these gals really fell for u with no strings attached. Which is not impossible but chances are really slim.

Whatever it is, enjoy the sweet moments while u can. Good times IMHO never lasts long and i sincerely wish you bros all the best.