Danger Signs! Need Help!

[V|ernar]

Originally Posted by FatSpider

poke first talk later

i also think so , poke first then say , just remember , she came to work , not come to find hubby.

after a few nights with her , when she is about to go back.. i think she will pop the golden qus.. "money money money"

if she didnt , lucky you.. maybe can invest abit of feeling in it.

but it still 60% / 40% , hold back a little , dont fall in the pit so fast..

cause once you in , only you yourself can save it.

even if you climb out if you found out she is cheating you , by that time.. money gone , heart broken , wasted your time.. you not longer young , 28.. unless you intend not to get married.

[watmidoin]

err, never experience the scene so not the best to advice but i smell a rat so must say out.

as i say. i no experience so can only rely on stories and stereotypes to judge. and the usual case is that ktv gers r in it for money. i mean, if she decent ger, wana live in s'pore, work as salesgirl or at fast food restaurant shld be enuf money to live although not comfortable. (correct me if i'm wrong. i tink student pass still can do part time jobs rite?) they do ktv because they want money. lots of money. maybe some need to pay sch fees but i seriously doubt theres no other ways besides ktv n fl. for example, there r so many s'poreans who teach tuition to earn their university fees. dun see why there shld be no other way for a prc. private tutor of chinese maybe?

another stereotype is prc ppl are world class cheats. they cheat foreigners. they cheat their own ppl. look at any wan bao n u sure to find some headlines abt unscrupulous businessman, etc. true. wanbao is tabloid. but no such thing happen also no such story. these ppl know how to cheat. sg ppl had been brought up in nice n safe environment. not very good at handling these ppl. be very careful.

if i were you, i would not give up my career and girlfriend for a ktv ger. (sorry, dun mean to degrade them but, as i repeat again, stereotype is that they are in it for money. materialistic ppl. they love your money. not u. etc.) u urself also know the probability she will be with u forever is very very low.

from the posts of so many bros who had been burnt, ktv is not the place to find love. in fact, not even emotional support can be found there. it is the world where only money toks.

if u really cannot let go, hire a private detective or something to investigate her. den u can know more about wat she does behind your back. poh xiao cai. dang da zai. this is the best advice i can give u.

finally, girlfriend demanding but sometimes its juz different ppl way of showing care. u need better communication with your gf.

[Ignite]

Thanks for all the advice bros, really appreciate it.

I know the general consensus would be to be careful, and not fall into the pit. You know what's the funny thing? I used to dole out such advice to my kakis, telling them to be careful, these girls always "tiger open big mouth" and bite a big chunk when they can... but now I find myself here, I find it hard to listen to my own advice................ Guess it's the "Maybe I'm different" or "It doesn't apply to me" mentality..

Think I really need to sort my stuff out..

28, travelled a lot, and still can't sort things out... i know, kindda pathetic

But I'm gonna take all the bros' advice constructively. Thanks!

[cheong jb]

tiu just poke first and keep as mistress but NOT/NEVER as wife . u will neber get the chance to regret if u fall for her trick and marry her

advise from JB

[yellowdancer]

Think taking PR is quite likely. Weigh the factors. Are you handsome? Are you rich? If you are both handsome and stylish, most probably she had fallen for you. But this doesn't mean that these girls cannot go for two goals at once. I know girlfriends can be rather shitty at times; but then why are you still with the shitty girl? Get yourself a better one lah.

Some brothers mentioned some good strategy, ask her for money and test her. Alternatively, maybe she needed support and was looking for you to "bao" her rather than service so many men all the time. Look at the odds, if she can survive with one, why waste time with so many. She might as well spend more time on her studies. She also might have some wee bit of feelings for you, but this can come and go.

Maybe you should go "bao" her and see her behavior first. If you "bao" her and she still want to go back to KTV and work and had "things" with other guys........ then you should know what to do.

[peterfish]

Originally Posted by Ignite

I blame my GF for not treating me nice enough, to the extent that a ktv girl makes me feel so much more comfortable...
.. but I also blame myself for not having enough self-control...........

Bro, please take advice from a guo lai ren. Don't see her any more. Let me ask you a question. Will you REALLY like a person whom you only met for only a couple of hours and especially at a place where smiles and fakes affections are the norm? If you are still avable then my advice is to run like hell and don't think too much about it. AA is just a DISTRACTIOn to the problems faced by you and your GF. If you really need to release, then go to another KTV and even GL. Play with your cock, never your heart.

[holein1]

Originally Posted by Ignite

You pretty much summed up what is going on in my mind...

1. Is she out for my $$? So far, everything's almost too good to be true.. Is she really "put long line, catch big fish"?

2. Is she looking to set foot in Singapore, and use me as a jumping board, then divorce me after getting PR, and maybe squeeze 1/2 my assets?

I blame my GF for not treating me nice enough, to the extent that a ktv girl makes me feel so much more comfortable...
.. but I also blame myself for not having enough self-control...........

bro, i've been following up your posts. i'll put in straight here to you mine. they are just views, don take offence if any doesnt sound good.

1. why are you thinking even thinking of point 2? you are not even her bf yet! you are in stage 2 of ktv relationship - hallucinations. thinking of all the nice stuff which will be happening between you two. And occasionally, if you and your gf quarrel, it will go on to bring you deeper into this hallu stage. go ponder why you choose your gf in the first place. never forget that decision and feeling.

2. chinese (from china) ppl talk in riddles. some of the brothers here can share this sentiment. some of the things you have related like "even if she were to do it with you, dunno what to charge, blah blah.." are "courtesy words". sporeans are very weak in catching the hidden meaning. to me, the above sentence doesnt carry anything. it simply could mean she doesnt want to provide that kind of service yet. she can make that statement becos she knows she doesnt want to provide yet; not becos she likes you that much. got it? it's a combination of your own interpretations (towards good always) and the way she said it that caused you to interpret otherwise.

3. sms or emails or calls don't contribute a single point IF there is no physical, visible action to substantiate it. one brother here has suggested to you the SB's solution. there are many more. only then, you'll see the "true colors"

it could move either ways. i wish you luck, but if you are really thinking of making her your that important one, better think twice. there are more complications to consider.

last advice: you are tormented by your constant thinking. you shld start some real actions to confirm some of them, if you are really thinking of something.

your humble SB friend,
Oin1.

[Ignite]

I won't take offence at any advice given here.

I'm thankful so many samsters are giving advice actually. I'll spend some time and sort out this entangled mind of mine. I think I more or less know what I should do actually, just have to, as holein1 said, put it into action.

[dradonsnake77]

well bro... we r in a better position now cos we can c e water clearer... but wen u r in water urself u cant c it at all... looks like u need sum super natural help ... go take a hike in e mountains n clear ur mind... mayb u can enlighten sum divine help... good luck

[thaivisitor]

Hello Bro,

Don't mind if I share a few words too.

My advice is to go with the flow. Don't take AA as a "PRC working in a KTV" kind of girl. All girls do hope to meet the so-called man of their dreams, a man who could provide stability in their life, a man who they like.

Like you, she may be also facing the same situation. She may asking her friends the same thing like "I've met this guy who I really like, etc, etc" and like you, her advices from her friends will also differ. Some will tell her it's guy's tatcis to pretend to be nice to a particular girl just to get her in bed for free, others will advice her that's she's here just to make money and no matters of the heart should be involved, while some others will tell her that there's still this possibility of getting the man of her dreams and ask her to go for it.

All in all, it doesn't matter. Like your present girlfriend, surely she isn't your first? Surely you already have sexual relations with her? If you were able to break off from your previous GF to be with this present one, don't see the problem of breaking off with her to be with someone you want. This vicious cycle will continue even sometimes after you're married when you discovered who you truely love, etc. That's how divorce comes in.

BTW, I'm not advising you to dump your present GF. Just asking you to go with the flow.

So what if you discover AA was playing all along? So what if one day she breaks your heart? It's not as if that will be the end of the world. Damn, who knows after some time, you may be the one dumping her for another?

You don't have to worry too much about matters like your assets being divided and so on, as even SG girls can do that when you're divorce.

I don't think it's any problem for you to bed her unless you are one that believes in bedding a woman only after marriage. Are you? Moreover, rest assured, your AA will not be a virgin even if she tells you that you are her first!

Go with the flow bro, go with the flow.

My 2 cents worth.

[sibaysong4u]

The best is Fuck,Paid & Leave!

[dradonsnake77]

one needle poke n c blood... good bro i like it n love e way u do things...
F & F dats e way...

[fcukster]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

Hello Bro,




I don't think it's any problem for you to bed her unless you are one that believes in bedding a woman only after marriage. Are you? Moreover, rest assured, your AA will not be a virgin even if she tells you that you are her first!

Go with the flow bro, go with the flow.

My 2 cents worth.

excellant i totally agree wit hwhat bro thaivisitor said ... GO WITH THE FLOW ... never ever attempt to go againest the flow

ermmm what if ... no matter how small the possiblity is ... that he bonk AA and she is really a virgin ... dun flame me hor .. i know chance is damm freaking small ...

[tanterry]

Originally Posted by Ignite

Die lah bros! How? She never asked for gifts when she know I go over'seas. Never accept above normal tips. Never float when I'm there. She know I wearing a Rolex Daytona on 1st night, but still never ask for anything. This type of PRC i first time see....

HELP!!!! I feel I falling very damn fast man. I'm 28 yrs old now, and career is pretty stable, but I read so many stories about PRC. Very scared, but still very attracted to AA. How?? I've been "siam'ing" my friends this past week, I also trying to "siam" her sms (she never calls, cos I told her I got GF, which is true, but my GF quite demanding and temperemental). But really damn miss AA!!!!

Think I'm going to die liao...........How?

(very sorry for this long post.........)

Wrong thinking lah bro, I also have been through this "phase" also... So know a bit of the prc gals' thinking... So 2 cents here.. One thing to look up is the branded stuffs she is wearing. My guess are 1) she should have already some found rich (uncle type) backers to supplement her earnings... These types of unlces are very busy so most of the time can only give money, but not time (got family liao). So, afterall, she is still human whom need love also. 2) Probably, she knew you are young-still-available plus quite well-to-do... is a sure better bet. Hook up you up, also got nothing to lose.

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by Ignite

I won't take offence at any advice given here.

I'm thankful so many samsters are giving advice actually. I'll spend some time and sort out this entangled mind of mine. I think I more or less know what I should do actually, just have to, as holein1 said, put it into action.

bro,

1. u should post on ktv thread. more guo lai ren who encounter these gers there.

2. after reading your posts, so what if she is genuine? u willing to have this ktv ger to be your wife or even gf? if not, whats the problem?

anyway there is nothing she did that is special. many gers also sms when free. she did not butterfly could be simply she got not enuff tai zuo. even if she really likes u, chances r hi she will ask u for money sooner or later. u willing to give?