Cheated

[DO_YOU_BJ]

If the trust factor is gone, no matter how u patch it up, there'll still be cracks.
Just be glad she aint LEGALLY MARRIED to you yet!

[mike1304k]

I would like to be the devils advocate if I may here. You said her friends told you.... Did she tell you? Did you see her? You can say many things, but it also depends on the agenda of her friends or yours. If they mean to break you up, they can say things to instill that little seed of doubt. I would also say that sometimes, it could be a meaningless test of how much you love her too. I am not saying that I experienced it, however, it might just be plausible that she wants to test how you will react if you thought she did not love her... If you go through the deep end or you pull yourself together. So she asks people to say things to test. This is a very very childish method... but it is possible.... No?

Best thing is to ask.... if confirmed... if negative... just thank your lucky stars you are not married yet and let go.... I know it hurts... Boy it sure does hurt... but then just consider that it is better to love than to have been loved and that she made a wrong choice... Show her that you are better. If one day she wants to come back, then it will be your choice of whether you will accept her or not. Like they say... "If you love something... let it go... if your love is true... you will be happy if she is happy... If she comes back, you will know that your love for each other has stood the trials of seperation and time... it comes out of true strength.." But if she does not come back... heck it lah.... you may find someone better out there...

I wish you luck bro... but before jumping... try to find out if the water is deep or not first hor.... Do not live on rumours... or it will kill you one day.

[BKnight]

The title: CHEATED is quite misleading because till now all are based on hear-say and you are suspecting with no proof or seen with your own eyes...The good news on the other hand is that, you might be cheated by her friends with all their false feedback...A coin has 2 faces but its the same coin.......ok..gotto go and smack some perky asses..

[slider_72]

To those bros who suggested that TS confront his fiance and ask her face to face whether she cheated on him, what do you think would be her answer? Unless there is some solid incriminating evidence, I'd bet my bottom dollar she will deny everything.

Look at it from another perspective, if you wife confront you one day and ask you whether you have been out whoring, what would be your answer? Definitely deny vehemently tio boh?

Some have even questioned the motive of those who told TS about seeing his fiance with other men. If one girl tells TS about it, perhaps this girl likes TS and is trying to break them up. But if three, four or five different girls tell TS the same thing, it is highly improbable that all of them are in love with TS and wants to break them up. So questioning the motive of the informer(s) while not wrong, should not be over emphasized.

Before TS decides to confront his fiance, he must as a prerequisite possess certain clear and unequivocal evidence of her philandering behaviour, otherwise it would just be an exercise in futility and result in great frustration. Let me illustrate.

Scenario 1

TS asks fiance : where were you last Saturday night

fiance : out at Zouk with Cindy, Cathy and Chloe.

TS : I don't believe you. You went out on a date with Charles!

fiance : Bullshit! How dare you accuse me of lying to you! Can you prove that I am lying, you shitty bastard?!?!?!

TS : I... I.... I..... I just know that you were out with Charles. I can sense it you know!

fiance : You sorry piece of shit! Tell you also no point!!! I have nothing further to explain to you since you wouldn't believe anything I say anyway! I was out with the girls. Since you don't believe me, believe whatever you want!!! Now get the fuck out of my face!!!

TS : (silence because got nothing to rebut fiance)...


Scenario 2

TS : You were out with Charles on Saturday night sometime after 8 pm.

fiance : (shocked) What do you mean? I was out at Zouk with Cindy, Cathy and Chloe that night.

TS : What time were you there with the girls?

fiance : We met at 8 pm at Zouk.

TS : This is a copy of your telephone record. You will see that on Saturday night, you called Cindy at 8:30. There was a call to Cathy at 9 pm and a further call to Chloe at 9:30 pm. If you were with them, why do you need to call them on their handphone?

fiance : Why you little piece of shit! How dare you check on me?

TS: (takes out phone recording which recorded his telephone conversation with Cindy) Please listen to this telephone recording.

"TS: Hi Cindy, Catherine said she left her handphone with you last saturday night when you girls went out that night. Is her phone still with you?

Cindy : Last Saturday night? No I was not with her, I was with Cathy and Chloe at Zouk. Catherine did not join us that night."

TS: Are you going to stick to your story that you were out with the girls at Zouk on Saturday night? Now can you tell me where were you on Saturday night and who were you with?

fiance : (very flustered) I already told you I was out with the girls! Since you don't believe me, I have nothing to explain to you further!

TS: I would suggest to you that you were not with the girls on Saturday night. You were with Charles.

fiance : (very angry) Who the hell told you I was out with Charles? Which of your two eyes saw me with Charles on Saturday night?!?!

TS : I didn't see it myself, but I have an eyewitness. By buddy Chong saw you and Charles going into Hotel 81 Lavender at about 10 pm. Are you going to deny that?

fiance : (face turns red and eyes will be darting about) wh.. wh.. What utter rubbish!!! Chong must be fucking blind or he is talking nonsense!!!

TS : He might be blind but he managed to get a copy of the guest information from the hotel 81 reception guy. I have a photocopy here showing that a guest by the name of Charles Chan checked into hotel 81 Lavender last saturday night at 10 pm. Obviously he was not there alone.

fiance : How do I know who he went with? It was definitely not me!!!

TS : Thanks to my friend Chong, who called me after seeing you, I waited for you below your block that night. You might recall that my Nokia N96 has a very powerful zoom lense. Would you agree with me that the persons shown in this photo are Charles and yourself? (shows photo taken from phone) This photo was taken at about 1 am when Charles sent you home. Would you agree with me that since Charles checked into Hotel 81 at 10 pm, and was seen sending you home 3 hours later, that the most natural conclusion was that both of you checked into Hotel 81 together?

fiance : (silence..... because got nothing to rebut TS)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Exactly my tot Slider.
That's Y, either way you look at it, MOVE ON!!!!!!!
No turning back liao........................

[HCKing]

wonder y is this thread rated 4 stars?

my take is since there r many friends of TS's gf telling him they saw her going out with other guy, there's a high chance that the girl herself has already lost interest in TS and doesnt give a damn if she is seen dating other guy in the open. and since TS is so worried to come here seek 4 help i guess there isnt much trust, as well as communication btw the 2. both of them need a talk to voice out their feelings and concerns, and also for them to reaccess their relationship to see if it's still worth continuing.

if cant work things out, then like wat bro DYBJ says, move on bah.

[TanChinKu]

Aiya.. TS... now just fuck her as many time you can. Then estimate the total and divide how much you spent by that number to get the per fuck unit cost.

Then decide if it is cheaper or more ex then FL and move on. Hehehe....

[BKnight]

T.S - Whatever is the outcome, don't do anything silly!!! Just move on if it's turn out to be bad....

[cablesnwires]

Originally Posted by slider_72

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fiance : I was out at Zouk with Cindy, Cathy and Chloe that night.

TS : What time were you there with the girls?

fiance : We met at 8 pm at Zouk.

Er... bro slider_72, they cannot be in Zouk at that time... I was with Cindy, Cathy and Chloe doing a foursome that night.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by cablesnwires

Er... bro slider_72, they cannot be in Zouk at that time... I was with Cindy, Cathy and Chloe doing a foursome that night.

My Hero.............................................. ...........................

[slider_72]

Originally Posted by cablesnwires

Er... bro slider_72, they cannot be in Zouk at that time... I was with Cindy, Cathy and Chloe doing a foursome that night.

I think I forgot to mention in my illustration that Cindy, Cathy and Chloe are all trannies. Well bro, you dah man!!! Enjoyed your 4-dicks swordplay?

[daggerboy]

The problem is that when we say "I love you", very often we say it with a big "I" and a small "you".

[mike1304k]

Originally Posted by daggerboy

The problem is that when we say "I love you", very often we say it with a big "I" and a small "you".

I think the word "love" has also changed... been abused and mis-used too. What is love in modern terms? Sex? Money? A sense of security? Ego?

A friend once told me... "Every woman wants a man to love her". But when I asked her what she meant, she said it was to feel like being loved... in some ways it is to feel like being in love. For a guy... to feel love is to penetrate something. It is also to be wanted by some girl.

So to be in love is changing. To love is changing. I have seen couples who have been together (local couples) for 8 years, then all of a sudden, nearing the wedding, one party gets cold feet or some other problem and it is called off. I have also seen some couple who get together for all the wrong reasons, eg shotgun or needing to get a HDB, but yet in the end they work out their needs and get along fine. A coupling is the coming together of a lot of things. Not one party or individual can make a pair work. It takes both parties. And if both parties cannot meet in the middle, then they had better give up and find someone else.

[cablesnwires]

Originally Posted by slider_72

I think I forgot to mention in my illustration that Cindy, Cathy and Chloe are all trannies. Well bro, you dah man!!! Enjoyed your 4-dicks swordplay?

Oh I have also forgotten what they have said about you, they told me the best time they ever had was with you the other day.... No horse run.... I'm happy for you...

[Express]

Originally Posted by mike1304k

I think the word "love" has also changed... been abused and mis-used too. What is love in modern terms? Sex? Money? A sense of security? Ego?

A friend once told me... "Every woman wants a man to love her". But when I asked her what she meant, she said it was to feel like being loved... in some ways it is to feel like being in love. For a guy... to feel love is to penetrate something. It is also to be wanted by some girl.

So to be in love is changing. To love is changing. I have seen couples who have been together (local couples) for 8 years, then all of a sudden, nearing the wedding, one party gets cold feet or some other problem and it is called off. I have also seen some couple who get together for all the wrong reasons, eg shotgun or needing to get a HDB, but yet in the end they work out their needs and get along fine. A coupling is the coming together of a lot of things. Not one party or individual can make a pair work. It takes both parties. And if both parties cannot meet in the middle, then they had better give up and find someone else.

What then is "Love"? To me, loving a person entails extending one's life for that person without expecting anything in return. You do not judge the person you love. Mother Teresa said "If you judge people, you have no time to love them."