[tatata21]

rahl you do make sense.

I have to say fans are not trigger by a one day failure. They are usually very patient, look at even City and Chelsea, the fans did not chase the managers out.

It takes time, of consistent failure, poor gameplay, empty promises, the blame game... the list goes on.

I do understand the pressure the manager has to face, but this is part of his own doings too. Like any corporate out there, if the public has extremely negative view on your company and singled out the cause, what will you do if you were the Chairman or CEO?

Wenger along with Arsenal has done fairly well admist the financial crisis. They are the only elite team that has a upward growth in market transactions, all this while competing with the likes of Utd Chelsea City Spurs and Liverpool, eventually still making the top 4.

The fans can accept the trophy drought but I admit it is getting uneasy even for the revered Arsene. His philosophy, transformation, tactics are what made Arsenal today, we were merely a boring team before. We had key injuries too, although all the tradition big 4 do face at least a crisis this season, we have the thinnest 1st team squad. The fans are more accomodating and appreciative of this long serving manager. We don't have the best team but we are one of the best clubs in the world.

As for the stadium, I can only say we are starting to see returns from the mega investment despite the debts. Which team doesn't have debts, which company in the world can prosper without debts, if any, they are stupid as anybody in the finance sector will tell you debt is cheap.

I'm glad to hear Wenger promises significant spendings and is finally targetting the likes of Simon Kajer, Chamakh etc.. before that we were simply sitting around and expecting some names we never heard of (hoping to stay in big4, or even wrestle for title). I would say this is the unofficial first dividend from Emirates. This also shows he does lend a ear and understands the fans.

This is the special faith from fans and to fans.

Liverpool needs to find a manager that has been proven in EPL best with great charisma, or a shrewd tactician like Mourinho - which is utterly rare. I still believe their current team is good enough to compete in big 4 next season, but as with many new managers, they always injects new life to the team, which might be what Liverpool really needs. The Liverpool players right now look too lacklustre, similar to when Arsenal slip off the chase for title in previous weeks.