Yeah, me too, it is really fustrating. Getting numbers is nothing for me really, it is just that upping them is really tough. I been going out on countless dates with pinas and indons lately, no success. So most of the time , I pass contacts to some of my friends out who are naturally good with women in general. They always told me they manage to sian and up them on the first and second date. I sibei envy them sia while i put a lot of effort and wasting time getting nothing , they really make it so simple sia.

Sigh....that's life. Anyway next year late Jan , I am attending a bootcamp course with one of the fellow samsters here on how to attract and seduce women, from the basics to the advanced. We just want to make an improvement in ourselves , I am aware that I could have made mistakes somewhere that I simply cannont close the deal , but the thing is I don' know, hence this bootcamp course to deepen my understanding with women.
Wish me luck and all the best guys! In fact I don't like relying on luck to get laid , I believed there are a certain set of skills out there from the bootcamp in order to captivate a woman.