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ADT007 05-12-2015 09:13 AM

Restriction of WL freedom
 
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Fat Fatt 05-12-2015 09:42 AM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13918506)
I was told by one of the Cat150 girl. The boss implement the following rules restricting their freedom. She felt like she is in a prison.

1) Must be ready (make up everything done) by 12pm and cannot off before 12am. Meaning have to be in the house from 12-12 7 days a week.

2) Cannot go out if she want to take a day off if she is tired.

3) During their period of 7 days, can only go out 5 days and 2 days cannot go out.

4) after work (12am) can go out but need to be back by 2am. Only 2 hours.

Are these rules implemented by Anti - Vice or OKT themselves ? Is there any infringement on any employment act ? These girls work hard everyday ( imagine being fucked by around 10 men everyday) and crop in the small room. Why can't they be allowed to go out for one day to relax themselves when they are tired ?

She being forced to work even though she is tired.... And wish the rules are more relaxed so that she can go out and have fun instead.

I also understand that these rules are implemented to prevent the girls from "eating outside" or being caught by AV. The OKT risk closing down their shop. But is it too overly harsh ?

Guys , what do you think of these restrictions ?

Which house is it? After a while the OkT will have no more girls to implement his controls

ADT007 05-12-2015 10:01 AM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
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Originally Posted by Fat Fatt (Post 13918593)
Which house is it? After a while the OkT will have no more girls to implement his controls

Not nice to reveal the house number at this point. Don't want to get the WL into more trouble. New girls who come will not know of these rules and is it only when they arrive then they realise all these restrictions on their freedom

ADT007 05-12-2015 10:10 AM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
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Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13918506)

2) Cannot go out if she want to take a day off if she is tired.

When she is tired she have to stay in the room the whole day and cannot go out. Anyone will go crazy man...

korean 05-12-2015 11:19 AM

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The house just move to their sister house? Probably that house was closed due to some serious act of the ex-wl, so in order to protect the rice bowl of the OKT as well as the current WL, OKT needs to be more strick to his WL to reduce the risk. Coz if get caught again may risk closing the business :eek:

I think if sick gotta show MC cert :eek:

unfit 05-12-2015 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by korean;13$$$$40
The house just move to their sister house? Probably that house was closed due to some serious act of the ex-wl, so in order to protect the rice bowl of the OKT as well as the current WL, OKT needs to be more strick to his WL to reduce the risk. Coz if get caught again may risk closing the business :eek:

I think if sick gotta show MC cert :eek:

Attn C Bunk is the safest for OKT;)

ADT007 05-12-2015 11:58 AM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
I am not talking about the WL being sick. Imagine you having sex 10 times a day in a small room and see no sunlight, you are bound to feel tired and wish to go out just to get a breather. Is that too much to ask ?

Sometimes I feel so pity for them being overworked, esp those ang pai

Doomas 05-12-2015 12:14 PM

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No such rules implemented by AV. Gahment very careful to avoid accusations of human trafficking. These rules are likely from the OKT. No gal can be forced to work if she doesn't want to, and can complain to AV but she better be prepared to face shit from the OKT.

Another possibility is that she's telling you sob story to soften you for a robert kill. If you want to verify these rules, you just need to simply check with gals in the same house or other houses.


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Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13918506)
I was told by one of the Cat150 girl. The boss implement the following rules restricting their freedom. She felt like she is in a prison.

1) Must be ready (make up everything done) by 12pm and cannot off before 12am. Meaning have to be in the house from 12-12 7 days a week.

2) Cannot go out if she want to take a day off if she is tired.

3) During their period of 7 days, can only go out 5 days and 2 days cannot go out.

4) after work (12am) can go out but need to be back by 2am. Only 2 hours.

Are these rules implemented by Anti - Vice or OKT themselves ? Is there any infringement on any employment act ? These girls work hard everyday ( imagine being fucked by around 10 men everyday) and crop in the small room. Why can't they be allowed to go out for one day to relax themselves when they are tired ?

She being forced to work even though she is tired.... And wish the rules are more relaxed so that she can go out and have fun instead.

I also understand that these rules are implemented to prevent the girls from "eating outside" or being caught by AV. The OKT risk closing down their shop. But is it too overly harsh ?

Guys , what do you think of these restrictions ?


ADT007 05-12-2015 12:20 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
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Originally Posted by Doomas (Post 13919130)
No such rules implemented by AV. Gahment very careful to avoid accusations of human trafficking. These rules are likely from the OKT. No gal can be forced to work if she doesn't want to, and can complain to AV but she better be prepared to face shit from the OKT.

Another possibility is that she's telling you sob story to soften you for a robert kill. If you want to verify these rules, you just need to simply check with gals in the same house or other houses.

Already verified. Not sob stories. I heard some houses even have stricter rules than these

korean 05-12-2015 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13919076)
I am not talking about the WL being sick. Imagine you having sex 10 times a day in a small room and see no sunlight, you are bound to feel tired and wish to go out just to get a breather. Is that too much to ask ?

Sometimes I feel so pity for them being overworked, esp those ang pai

I agree with u. But OKT just follows AV regulation. If not mistaken, OKT needs to accompany WL to go outside GL area, not sure how true. There are some WLs spoiling the market by staying overnite, meeting customers for sex, drug, party and some get caught. FOr those OKT get caught once, they do not want to risk for re occurance, or else license may be taken away. If u r in the shoes of that OKT, how will u manage?

That's y alot WLs wont stay long as some of them too used to go party :D

Doomas 05-12-2015 12:33 PM

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Part abt OKT having to accompany WL outside GL is true. Would love to rebut the other points but I don't feel I should do so. AV buggers are a law on their own and I don't want to jeopardise the freedom of movement currently enjoyed by the more fortunate WLs.

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Originally Posted by korean (Post 13919151)
I agree with u. But OKT just follows AV regulation. If not mistaken, OKT needs to accompany WL to go outside GL area, not sure how true. There are some WLs spoiling the market by staying overnite, meeting customers for sex, drug, party and some get caught. FOr those OKT get caught once, they do not want to risk for re occurance, or else license may be taken away. If u r in the shoes of that OKT, how will u manage?

That's y alot WLs wont stay long as some of them too used to go party :D


max_priest 05-12-2015 12:33 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
This is Singapore which is governed by law & order ... AV has implemented very strict rules on legal prostituion. What thread starter has mentioned above is definitely not AV rules. AV does not implement slavery rules on legal whores. If there is any grievance that the whore concern has, she can lodge a complaint against her OKT at AV office. This is the basic rights of legal whore in GL. All legal whores have already been given instruction to do so when the whores were issued with the Yellow card before starting work. If what the whore said is true, and beyond reasonable doubt, the OKT concern shall be penalized and the WL may be given a choice to be transferred to another house. This happened before ... I don't wish to name the houses however ... :)

Having said that, legal whores in GL are not supposed to date customers and/or engage in sexual activity with any individual be it free or pay outside her work place in GL. If the whore is caught for doing that, not only the whore will be penalized but also her OKT.

korean 05-12-2015 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13919143)
Already verified. Not sob stories. I heard some houses even have stricter rules than these

Probably it depends whether that house received yellow card or red card before or not lol

I think if WL don't take leave too often and stay at home the okt should be fine with it, the most just show black face. Probably that WL wanna go out, my guess

ADT007 05-12-2015 12:57 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
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Originally Posted by max_priest;1391$$$$
. If what the whore said is true, and beyond reasonable doubt, the OKT concern shall be penalized and the WL may be given a choice to be transferred to another house.

So you saying OKT does not have the right to implement these rules ?

if so, why do most houses have all these rules ?

I remembered like 2, 3 years ago, there wasn't such restriction rules.

sammyboyfor 05-12-2015 12:59 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
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Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13918506)

Guys , what do you think of these restrictions ?

What business is it of yours how they are treated?

Are you one of those human rights activists or what? :rolleyes:

max_priest 05-12-2015 01:01 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
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Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13919275)
So you saying OKT does not have the right to implement these rules ?

if so, why do most houses have all these rules ?

I remembered like 2, 3 years ago, there wasn't such restriction rules.

OKT can control WLs to a certain extent but not to the extent of restricting her freedom and forcing her to work ... If however the WL is caught dating her customers or some individual other than her OKT, and/or moonlighting outside GL premises, her OKT can send her home.

korean 05-12-2015 01:05 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13919275)
So you saying OKT does not have the right to implement these rules ?

if so, why do most houses have all these rules ?

I remembered like 2, 3 years ago, there wasn't such restriction rules.

My thought, if you just got your driving llicense, you drive freely and park as u like. If u got demerit until a point one more demerit will vold your license, will u be extra more careful? :D

highlysex 05-12-2015 01:40 PM

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Good read bro, thanks

loverod 05-12-2015 03:03 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13918506)
I was told by one of the Cat150 girl. The boss implement the following rules restricting their freedom. She felt like she is in a prison.

1) Must be ready (make up everything done) by 12pm and cannot off before 12am. Meaning have to be in the house from 12-12 7 days a week.

2) Cannot go out if she want to take a day off if she is tired.

3) During their period of 7 days, can only go out 5 days and 2 days cannot go out.

4) after work (12am) can go out but need to be back by 2am. Only 2 hours.

Are these rules implemented by Anti - Vice or OKT themselves ? Is there any infringement on any employment act ? These girls work hard everyday ( imagine being fucked by around 10 men everyday) and crop in the small room. Why can't they be allowed to go out for one day to relax themselves when they are tired ?

She being forced to work even though she is tired.... And wish the rules are more relaxed so that she can go out and have fun instead.

I also understand that these rules are implemented to prevent the girls from "eating outside" or being caught by AV. The OKT risk closing down their shop. But is it too overly harsh ?

Guys , what do you think of these restrictions ?


So the idea behind this thread is....? Help her to report? Waiting for some shiny knight with cash to rescue her?

sammyboyfor 05-12-2015 03:27 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
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Originally Posted by loverod (Post 13919748)
So the idea behind this thread is....? Help her to report? Waiting for some shiny knight with cash to rescue her?

Restricting the movement of whores is the right thing to do in order to prevent them from causing problems for Singaporean men.

harpyoga 05-12-2015 04:03 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
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Originally Posted by sammyboyfor (Post 13919845)
Restricting the movement of whores is the right thing to do in order to prevent them from causing problems for Singaporean men.

So true, boss ...

luckyboiboi 05-12-2015 04:54 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
i've always thought WLs cannot leave the house.

CumExplorer 05-12-2015 07:05 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13918679)
When she is tired she have to stay in the room the whole day and cannot go out. Anyone will go crazy man...

stupid okt rule, in the case should let girls out and recharge themselves :D

thorium 05-12-2015 07:20 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Definitely true that some OKTs don't treat their girls very well. A WL once told me that she was pressured to work even though she was sick.

What you can do is visit those houses whose girls are treated better. The girls there are relatively happier which translates to better service and a longer stay in SG.

guy88852 05-12-2015 09:31 PM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor (Post 13919845)
Restricting the movement of whores is the right thing to do in order to prevent them from causing problems for Singaporean men.

Totally agree, it would have saved me a lot of heartache..

Kopio8888 05-12-2015 10:02 PM

The WL should be happy with the rules bcos longer business hours mean can earn more. Pls don take their words so seriously. If she really can't take it then can shift to other house. OKT won't force her to work even she doesn't want to. Still don understand the purpose of this thread, want that OKT to read this thread and change the rules?

Lorres 06-12-2015 12:22 AM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Better not to know what's going on.
Just visit and leave with a fantasy. Some WLs probably live in fantasy land in order to survive.
So please don't probe them (pun not intended) for info, in case it brings them back to reality. There's nothing we can do anyway.

Yes, go to houses that are cheerful, where the WLs and OKTs can joke among themselves and not being serious even when customers come.
Chances are the WL has a better working life, and a happy atmosphere brings in more customers, which makes OKT and WL happy with the income, and a happy WL will provide a happier session that can translate to RTF. A virtuous cycle.

Houses where the OKT are very stressed for customers and give black face when you reject, will frighten away customers. Lack of income make OKT stressed. Vicious cycle.

ADT007 06-12-2015 06:09 AM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorres (Post 13921513)

Yes, go to houses that are cheerful, where the WLs and OKTs can joke among themselves and not being serious even when customers come.
Chances are the WL has a better working life, and a happy atmosphere brings in more customers, which makes OKT and WL happy with the income, and a happy WL will provide a happier session that can translate to RTF. A virtuous cycle.

Houses where the OKT are very stressed for customers and give black face when you reject, will frighten away customers. Lack of income make OKT stressed. Vicious cycle.

That's what I feel too. Imagine you go into a shop and saw all tired looking WL

Hope those boss who saw this thread will reflect on their rules. It makes no sense at all to "imprison" these girls who earn money for them

sammyboyfor 06-12-2015 06:59 AM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13922069)
That's what I feel too. Imagine you go into a shop and saw all tired looking WL

Hope those boss who saw this thread will reflect on their rules. It makes no sense at all to "imprison" these girls who earn money for them

It's much better to see them "imprisoned" rather than roaming free and causing all sorts of problems for Singapore men.

You should get your priorities right. If you're concerned about the welfare of foreign workers, I can assure that the Bangla/PRC construction laborers live in far worse conditions compared to those whores. Take a look for yourself at http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2009...lly-slum-free/

You should first channel your efforts into improving the living and working conditions of these constructions workers. When you've solved their plight, you can then move on to saving the prostitutes.

korean 06-12-2015 07:55 AM

Re: Restriction of WL freedom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADT007 (Post 13919076)
I am not talking about the WL being sick. Imagine you having sex 10 times a day in a small room and see no sunlight, you are bound to feel tired and wish to go out just to get a breather. Is that too much to ask ?

Sometimes I feel so pity for them being overworked, esp those ang pai

If she is an Ang pai, no need to worry too much for her as she got far more option than less popular wl. She can choose to work less by selecting customer, and some customer goes for multi session which allows her to have more rest. Most likely they will travel to other house daily so they can still see the sunlight. Probably you should pity those who want to work more but poor business WL.


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