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melvin244 22-04-2010 10:09 PM

vietnam wife
 
any bro here had bought a vietnam wife???
wan to knw more abt it?
hw much isit?
thinkin of gettin one
gettin older
wan to have a family to settle down

cashier 23-04-2010 02:41 AM

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the way u put is very degrading of humans. what buy and sell? they deserve to be treated with min. human respect.

nevertheless i wouldnt suggest u buy one as the result from bride agency has been ver bad. i rather u find someone willing to introduce their wives relative to u. marriage from such cases have much better result as the brides cant just run away or be funny when she knows her relatives..

my suggestion will be humbly ask forumers here wh have vietnam wives to intro to u.

sammyboyfor 23-04-2010 03:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by melvin244 (Post 4795424)
wan to have a family to settle down

What usually happens is the viet wife will take the kids and do a runner once she's got what she wants out of her sinkie husband.:rolleyes:


Quote:

http://forums.sgclub.com/singapore/v...ned_31870.html

Vietnam bride returned to Vietnam with child and refuse to come back


My brother married a Vietnamese bride about 3 years ago. She bore a child not long after. 2 months ago she said she wanted to return to Vietnam to visit her family and wanted to take her child along. She said she will return after 2 weeks.

Now, 2 months have passed and she refuses to come back to Singapore with her child. We have called her several times and on the occasion that she picks up the phone, she insists on not returning. She even demanded money in return for the child to be returned to Singapore.

We have approached the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Singapore Embassy of Singapore in Vietnam for assistance. Both mentioned that this is a domestic affair and should be settled by ourselves. Either that or attempt to secure custody of the child through legal means, which we understand will most likely be a time consuming and expensive matter. While we may consider this option, we are concerned for his safety, well-being, among other issues.

We are at a lost on what avenues are avaialble to us and hope enlightened ones can come forward and offer us some words of advice, thanks in advance.

sammyboyfor 23-04-2010 04:01 AM

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DUMPED by pregnant foreign bride via phone - JULY 27, 2009

DUMPED by pregnant foreign bride via phone

HE thought he had found love after spending 10 years in search of a bride through matchmaking agencies.
By Crystal Chan
27 July 2009

HE thought he had found love after spending 10 years in search of a bride through matchmaking agencies.

Even when he learnt that the Vietnamese woman he chose to marry probably harboured feelings for an ex-lover, he continued to love her.

When Mr David Quek, 39, a facilities manager, learnt his Vietnamese wife, Madam Kim Vui, 21, was pregnant, he looked forward to starting a family.

But now, Mr Quek is in a quandary.

His wife has returned to Ho Chi Minh City and is refusing to return.

And not only has he probably lost his wife and unborn child, but he can't move on as it will be difficult for him to file for divorce.

Mr Quek said he got to know Madam Kim in mid-April through Vietnam Brides International, a matchmaking agency in Orchard Plaza.

'When I met Kim Vui, I thought she looked sweet and simple,' said Mr Quek.

She was nothing like some of the materialistic local women he had met through other dating agencies.

They went on dinner dates a few times a week and Mr Quek was happy enough to take her home to meet his mother. His father died several years ago.

The couple got married on 14 Jun. But their marital bliss was short-lived.

Two weeks after they tied the knot, Mr Quek got an angry phone call from a man who claimed to be the husband of Madam Kim's friend.

He told Mr Quek that Madam Kim had a 'husband' in Ho Chi Minh City and that the other man had asked Madam Kim's friend to get her to return to him.

Shocked, Mr Quek confronted his wife. Madam Kim denied that she was married, but admitted that the 'husband' was actually her former lover. She said they were no longer together.

Feeling cheated, Mr Quek took his wife back to the matchmaking agency on 29 Jun and demanded an explanation from its boss, Mr Mark Lin.

He said: 'I was angry as my wife would be a bigamist if she was really married in Vietnam. I called Mark and scolded him for hiding my wife's complicated background from me.'

Mr Lin denied deceiving Mr Quek, who had agreed to pay $7,000 in five instalments to have his marriage with Madam Kim arranged.

He said: 'I trust the girls to be honest but if they want to lie, there's nothing I can do.'

He also told Mr Quek that he should accept his wife's past if he really loved her.

Mr Quek patched things up with his wife but two days later, she told him her parents wanted her to return to Ho Chi Minh City to attend to some family matters.

So on 2 Jul, they flew to Ho Chi Minh City to visit her parents.

They were supposed to return to Singapore on 5 Jul, but Madam Kim said she wanted to stay with her parents for a few more days, promising to return on 25 Jul.

Mr Quek, who returned to Singapore on his own, said he did not think anything was wrong then.

He said: 'I thought she was homesick and I thought she'd be happy if she could spend more time with her family.'

Mr Quek described his wife as a simple woman who never asked him for money or shopped extravagantly.

He said his wife called him every day to ask after him and to tell him she was fine.

Then last Sunday, Madam Kim called to say she did not want to return to him.

Mr Quek said: 'I was shocked. I told her, 'Please don't joke about such things.' I asked if she was unwell but she just wouldn't tell me why she wanted to stay in Vietnam.'

Mr Quek believes his wife's ex-lover could be behind her decision to leave him.

Showing us his handphone, he said: 'After I returned to Singapore, I received text messages in a mixture of Vietnamese and English, telling me to stay away from my wife.'

The New Paper on Sunday was able to contact Madam Kim, who confirmed Mr Quek's worst fear.

Speaking through her Mandarin-speaking Vietnamese friend, Miss Julie Tan, 22, Madam Kim said she had come to Singapore to try to forget her ex.

Miss Tan said: 'But after the marriage, she realised she couldn't forget her ex even though Mr Quek is good to her.'

Mr Quek then tried to get the Singapore consulate in Ho Chi Minh City to help convince his wife to come back, but she was adamant about staying.

When asked what he plans to do now, Mr Quek said he would take time to consider his options.

Uncertain about future

He sighed: 'Whether I divorce her or not, I don't know if I'll get to see my child.

'I guess I'm just suay (Hokkien for unlucky). Other men have happy lives with their Vietnamese wives but I'm unfortunate to be in this situation.'

He added: 'She's carrying my child but if she doesn't return and chooses to abort the foetus, I can't stop her too.'

Mr Quek plans to visit a free legal clinic to seek advice on what to do.

If he fails to convince Madam Kim to return, it will also be difficult for him to move on.

The Women's Charter states that no divorces can be filed until a couple have been married for three years.

Lawyer Nicholas Cheong said Mr Quek can still file for divorce if he can show he has suffered exceptional hardship from his wife's departure.

But Mr Cheong also pointed out that it would be difficult for Mr Quek to make a clean break from his wife as she's pregnant.

He said: 'She's entitled to ask for maintenance for their child though she left him. As the father, Mr Quek is obliged to support the child.'

Mr Lin has told Mr Quek that he will waive the remaining instalment of $1,000 if Madam Kim still refuses to return.'My job is done once the marriage is solemnised. I introduce the girls to customers but I certainly don't guarantee successful marriages,' said Mr Lin.

goodpartner 23-04-2010 04:08 AM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashier (Post 4795913)
the way u put is very degrading of humans. what buy and sell? they deserve to be treated with min. human respect.

Give the man a break lah bro. There's a reason why these marriage agencies thrives even in today's society and really does serve a niche purpose; not everyone is so "lucky" to find love in the way generally accepted.

In olden chinese custom where children are match-made by parents, it's it also "cruel" and undeserving viewing through the eyes of modern society now? The money (or whatever) involved is just the token for the trade.

Love can be found or cultivated in different ways. At the end of the day, the couple who can bear the rest of the crap and able to maintain a lifelong r/s is the winner. Don't we have local gals running away with kids (plus half the fortune) too, so what gives? :rolleyes::D

sammyboyfor 23-04-2010 06:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goodpartner (Post 4795955)

Love can be found or cultivated in different ways. At the end of the day, the couple who can bear the rest of the crap and able to maintain a lifelong r/s is the winner.

Marriage has got nothing to do with love. Marriage is all about mutual respect.:rolleyes:

cashier 23-04-2010 06:29 AM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor (Post 4795951)
DUMPED by pregnant foreign bride via phone - JULY 27, 2009

DUMPED by pregnant foreign bride via phone

HE thought he had found love after spending 10 years in search of a bride through matchmaking agencies.
By Crystal Chan
27 July 2009

HE thought he had found love after spending 10 years in search of a bride through matchmaking agencies.

Even when he learnt that the Vietnamese woman he chose to marry probably harboured feelings for an ex-lover, he continued to love her.

When Mr David Quek, 39, a facilities manager, learnt his Vietnamese wife, Madam Kim Vui, 21, was pregnant, he looked forward to starting a family.

But now, Mr Quek is in a quandary.

His wife has returned to Ho Chi Minh City and is refusing to return.

And not only has he probably lost his wife and unborn child, but he can't move on as it will be difficult for him to file for divorce.

Mr Quek said he got to know Madam Kim in mid-April through Vietnam Brides International, a matchmaking agency in Orchard Plaza.

'When I met Kim Vui, I thought she looked sweet and simple,' said Mr Quek.

She was nothing like some of the materialistic local women he had met through other dating agencies.

They went on dinner dates a few times a week and Mr Quek was happy enough to take her home to meet his mother. His father died several years ago.

The couple got married on 14 Jun. But their marital bliss was short-lived.

Two weeks after they tied the knot, Mr Quek got an angry phone call from a man who claimed to be the husband of Madam Kim's friend.

He told Mr Quek that Madam Kim had a 'husband' in Ho Chi Minh City and that the other man had asked Madam Kim's friend to get her to return to him.

Shocked, Mr Quek confronted his wife. Madam Kim denied that she was married, but admitted that the 'husband' was actually her former lover. She said they were no longer together.

Feeling cheated, Mr Quek took his wife back to the matchmaking agency on 29 Jun and demanded an explanation from its boss, Mr Mark Lin.

He said: 'I was angry as my wife would be a bigamist if she was really married in Vietnam. I called Mark and scolded him for hiding my wife's complicated background from me.'

Mr Lin denied deceiving Mr Quek, who had agreed to pay $7,000 in five instalments to have his marriage with Madam Kim arranged.

He said: 'I trust the girls to be honest but if they want to lie, there's nothing I can do.'

He also told Mr Quek that he should accept his wife's past if he really loved her.

Mr Quek patched things up with his wife but two days later, she told him her parents wanted her to return to Ho Chi Minh City to attend to some family matters.

So on 2 Jul, they flew to Ho Chi Minh City to visit her parents.

They were supposed to return to Singapore on 5 Jul, but Madam Kim said she wanted to stay with her parents for a few more days, promising to return on 25 Jul.

Mr Quek, who returned to Singapore on his own, said he did not think anything was wrong then.

He said: 'I thought she was homesick and I thought she'd be happy if she could spend more time with her family.'

Mr Quek described his wife as a simple woman who never asked him for money or shopped extravagantly.

He said his wife called him every day to ask after him and to tell him she was fine.

Then last Sunday, Madam Kim called to say she did not want to return to him.

Mr Quek said: 'I was shocked. I told her, 'Please don't joke about such things.' I asked if she was unwell but she just wouldn't tell me why she wanted to stay in Vietnam.'

Mr Quek believes his wife's ex-lover could be behind her decision to leave him.

Showing us his handphone, he said: 'After I returned to Singapore, I received text messages in a mixture of Vietnamese and English, telling me to stay away from my wife.'

The New Paper on Sunday was able to contact Madam Kim, who confirmed Mr Quek's worst fear.

Speaking through her Mandarin-speaking Vietnamese friend, Miss Julie Tan, 22, Madam Kim said she had come to Singapore to try to forget her ex.

Miss Tan said: 'But after the marriage, she realised she couldn't forget her ex even though Mr Quek is good to her.'

Mr Quek then tried to get the Singapore consulate in Ho Chi Minh City to help convince his wife to come back, but she was adamant about staying.

When asked what he plans to do now, Mr Quek said he would take time to consider his options.

Uncertain about future

He sighed: 'Whether I divorce her or not, I don't know if I'll get to see my child.

'I guess I'm just suay (Hokkien for unlucky). Other men have happy lives with their Vietnamese wives but I'm unfortunate to be in this situation.'

He added: 'She's carrying my child but if she doesn't return and chooses to abort the foetus, I can't stop her too.'

Mr Quek plans to visit a free legal clinic to seek advice on what to do.

If he fails to convince Madam Kim to return, it will also be difficult for him to move on.

The Women's Charter states that no divorces can be filed until a couple have been married for three years.

Lawyer Nicholas Cheong said Mr Quek can still file for divorce if he can show he has suffered exceptional hardship from his wife's departure.

But Mr Cheong also pointed out that it would be difficult for Mr Quek to make a clean break from his wife as she's pregnant.

He said: 'She's entitled to ask for maintenance for their child though she left him. As the father, Mr Quek is obliged to support the child.'

Mr Lin has told Mr Quek that he will waive the remaining instalment of $1,000 if Madam Kim still refuses to return.'My job is done once the marriage is solemnised. I introduce the girls to customers but I certainly don't guarantee successful marriages,' said Mr Lin.

yes never ever trust women, they will betray even if u are nice to them because they are always in love with dick that can stir their emotions, not man who truly nice to them.

anway, this mark lin agency is blacklisted in my opinion since long ago.

cashier 23-04-2010 06:35 AM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor (Post 4796012)
Marriage has got nothing to do with love. Marriage is all about mutual respect.:rolleyes:

i agree thats why those who married for love are gonna get divorced when the love is not there. love like feeling are chemistry which usuallly dun last for long. but mutual respect is what can keep family bonded and going. it is much more dependable by feeling of love. thats why those marriage that are arranged by parents usually less likely ends up as divorce.

sammyboyfor 23-04-2010 06:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashier (Post 4796016)
thats why those marriage that are arranged by parents usually less likely ends up as divorce.

It doesn't make any difference whether there was an initial attraction or whether the marriage was arranged.

If mutual respect is not established early in the relationship, the marriage will fail. If it is, the marriage has a solid foundation.

cashier 23-04-2010 06:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor (Post 4796018)
It doesn't make any difference whether there was an initial attraction or whether the marriage was arranged.

If mutual respect is not established early in the relationship, the marriage will fail. If it is, the marriage has a solid foundation.

arranged marriage has one common point. they married with family in mind and usually those who respect their parents decision usually will have the respect for their spouse if their spouse dun abuse them .of course with mutual respect, abuses will be the last thing to happen. hence arrangedmarriage usully works better as mutual respect is in place before the marriage is soloemnised

KangTuo 23-04-2010 09:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by melvin244 (Post 4795424)
any bro here had bought a vietnam wife???
wan to knw more abt it?
hw much isit?
thinkin of gettin one
gettin older
wan to have a family to settle down

one of the day I went to a ktv in Golden Mile Tower...
waliing around, i see few bride agency with viet gals sitting outside.

you go see yourself.

but you wanna settle down with a 'bought' wife :eek: :eek:

Castrol 23-04-2010 02:19 PM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor (Post 4795951)
When Mr David Quek, 39, a facilities manager, learnt his Vietnamese wife, Madam Kim Vui, 21, was pregnant, he looked forward to starting a family.

39 years old man marry 21 years old chick = short term marriage.

thats what i think. i always wish to see not-so-young bachelors getting married; dont matter thru bride agency or not. a man has to have a wife.

but the 2 decade age gap is foolish lah, unless the man is 70 and the viet wife is 50 then still ok.

melvin244 23-04-2010 10:35 PM

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any good one??
y all i see is the bad point

S.B.Y 23-04-2010 10:52 PM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Halo Mas melvin244

There are very rare sucess stories too which are hardly written up. :)

Here's one of them

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/matters...-ex-wl-vn.html

peter69on 23-04-2010 11:24 PM

Re: vietnam wife
 
My neighbour got a vietnam wife about 8 years ago.
My neighbour started a business and then fail.
had to sell flat.

But i still saw the whole family at market makan breakfast.
So i guess should be ok ba.

Most of my friends is china wife. so only one vietnam sample. thats all

S.B.Y 24-04-2010 12:03 AM

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Well Mas melvin244

Here's a positive story that marrying an S.E.A lady can have a sucess story.

Do remember to keep up posted if ever your life story too becomes sucessful

And Pak P sincerely do hope it does :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter69on (Post 4797822)
My neighbour got a vietnam wife about 8 years ago.
My neighbour started a business and then fail.
had to sell flat.

But i still saw the whole family at market makan breakfast.
So i guess should be ok ba.

Most of my friends is china wife. so only one vietnam sample. thats all


goodpartner 24-04-2010 02:49 AM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by melvin244 (Post 4797738)
any good one??
y all i see is the bad point

U make a good one and share here lor.

Again, depends on where you seek your ADVI_E online. In SBF, you'll get bad ones becoz any supporter for good ones will likely be frown upon and be zapped ;)

Hurricane88 24-04-2010 07:20 AM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Just go hcm and there are about 5 million to choose...Check out my hcm thread in my signature...:)

cashier 24-04-2010 02:36 PM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peter69on (Post 4797822)
My neighbour got a vietnam wife about 8 years ago.
My neighbour started a business and then fail.
had to sell flat.

But i still saw the whole family at market makan breakfast.
So i guess should be ok ba.

Most of my friends is china wife. so only one vietnam sample. thats all

u sure he brought his wife and not introed to him by his friend?

all i can say is that from my humble experiences, you can see my posts,as i have friends who are married with vietnam wives, success are much higher if you know or someone know who you are marrying. at least do a basic but trustable background check. marriage is such a big issue, you cant leave it to chance of 50 /50. there are many bro here who have vietnam wives, why the ts dun asked them via email or pm for intro?

cashier 24-04-2010 02:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurricane88 (Post 4798354)
Just go hcm and there are about 5 million to choose...Check out my hcm thread in my signature...:)

hcm girls are starting to be materialistic. i rather u go to dalat.

Hurricane88 24-04-2010 10:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashier (Post 4799000)
hcm girls are starting to be materialistic. i rather u go to dalat.

hahaha...you are right...but alot working and doing biz are not local...alot are from Nha Trang, Dalat, etc...:)

SingViet 25-04-2010 11:54 AM

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no matter where you know yr viet wife, you have to make efforts to understand her and also let her feel loved. spend time with her , communicate with her and explain to her how things operate in singapore. things in singapore are very much different compared to vietnam. ignorance abt singapore way of life often lead to conflicts.

i know of a singapore man with viet wife, and he consistently lie to his wife. he told his wife he pay a lot of tax, but don't know why his wife cannot get PR. he has a lot of money in bank, but he cannot afford most things. this singapore chap , having lie a great deal to his wife, is so afraid that his wife will find out that he lies that he ask his mother to follow his wife everywhere and prevents his wife from interacting with others. with such attitude n tactic, how will his wife feel secure n loved?

marriage is 2 way traffic, needs a lot of patience, love n care. :D

S.B.Y 25-04-2010 01:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SingViet (Post 4800456)

no matter where you know yr viet wife, you have to make efforts to understand her and also let her feel loved. spend time with her , communicate with her and explain to her how things operate in singapore. things in singapore

marriage is 2 way traffic, needs a lot of patience, love n care. :D

This statement has Pak P's stamp of approval

Very well put Mas SingViet

Hurricane88 25-04-2010 02:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SingViet (Post 4800456)
marriage is 2 way traffic, needs a lot of patience, love n care. :D

Bro SingViet has a thread on "Understanding Vietnamese Life Partner"...in this thread...plenty of case studies...can take it as pleasure reading...:)

goodpartner 26-04-2010 12:23 AM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor (Post 4796012)
Marriage has got nothing to do with love. Marriage is all about mutual respect.:rolleyes:

Will u marry one while you love another? :rolleyes:

S.B.Y 26-04-2010 12:32 AM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodpartner (Post 4801827)
Will u marry one while you love another? :rolleyes:

Reminds Pak P of the song Torn between two lovers by Charlene

sammyboyfor 26-04-2010 04:10 AM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodpartner (Post 4801827)
Will u marry one while you love another? :rolleyes:

I don't believe in all this "love" crap. :rolleyes: Sexual attraction is not "love". It's "lust".

The girl I marry would have to be my best friend above all else.

mina.qq 26-04-2010 06:57 AM

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i heard tat vietnam wife can cook well....:)

cashier 26-04-2010 05:02 PM

Re: vietnam wife
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodpartner (Post 4801827)
Will u marry one while you love another? :rolleyes:

Love is overhyped. as for your case, try to marry the one you love, if cannot then end that love and marry another.
Love is not the pre-requsite for marriage and happiness. it is a bonus good to have it earlier. Many of ourforefathers ends up loving the wives that they were arranged to married.

Anyway for men, Lust or the desire to own one dream gals overwhelm 95% over the 5% of real love.

uobboss 26-04-2010 11:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor (Post 4802100)
I don't believe in all this "love" crap. :rolleyes: Sexual attraction is not "love". It's "lust".

The girl I marry would have to be my best friend above all else.

Marriage is no longer on sg ppl minds now they prefer a trial first before getting it done legally . The divorce rate is getting higher every year . Would you marry someone who could not get u sexually satisfied ??


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