Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

You don't listen to Van Gaal, big mistake!
不听老人言，吃亏在眼前 :D

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

Maybe I will listen to Van De Beek. :D

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

You better listen to CR7, tiagong he is more powerful than the management :D

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

"felt primal and perfectly correct to me"

can relate with this definitely understandable

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

at the end of the day, men are all wretched, so going out and getting these urges out of your system, sometimes may help to make you a friendlier person at home i feel.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

Too much money

Too much time

Too much energy .

:D

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

this is not healthy relationship. you going outside to fulfill sexual needs means your relationship cannot fulfill it. one point of unhealthy relationship. second point u need to lie to go to these places.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

By cheating you mean having affair, or seeking paid companionship via the different services talked about here on sbf?

My first gf became my wife a few years ago, and she essentially forced me to marry her for a very stupid reason. Although she is very sweet and loving, she has very bad mood swing and our unplanned marriage and bto (no children, no pregnancy involved) turned my life upside down and almost financially ruined me. Also she can be very insistent on having things her way, and nagging about everything, ie Princess. I am still trying to recover from it as we paid our wedding and bto with our own money (but just found out her parents actually gave her 6 figure sum and she never use WTF), and since then I just don't feel any emotions from our relationship. I just pretend and act like everything is OK. Sex with her also quite sian tbh, she will keep talking during sex and saying stupid things which she thinks is cute but tbh I find turn off. Then during sex complain this pain that uncomfortable this one don't like, everytime end up dead fish position. She still wants sex but every time machiam I am the fl servicing her.

So I chiong lor, sex with fl/wl is more enjoyable. But I will never see it as anything more than commercial. Lately I like to go KTV pub though, as all my friends are guai kia, they see all these activities as dirty so I go myself drink and sing song and release, got bu to accompany me play game and hold my arm hug me drink with me, and I give them tip for their company.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

How did you ‘essentially’ be forced to marry her?

She obtained a gun and threatened to shoot you in the head?

Well i loved her a lot, so that time she threatened to break up if we didn't get married that year even though we had actually sat down to plan to get married a few years later after I was more financially stable.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

Basically you made a choice, you’re not happy about it now and somebody else gets the blame.

It’s always so easy to do that. Don’t blame you for doing it, but that is exactly what you’re doing.

What you say is true and I know, I am essentially unhappy that I chose that path. All I want to do now is to improve my career and make lots of money haha

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

Ah ha, I was in the exact same same boat.

Nothing like focusing on making money now, for mine’s own happiness and no one else’s.

Why don’t you get a divorce? Make a path correction.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

the people who say money not important are the people who already have it. money can buy happiness. how? got money dont need to work can do what you want. hahaha

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I have a friend who was in this similar situation. She went for a divorce, now she’s even happier than before.. I guess it’s the difficult choices you have to make at the start, which might seem impossible to do, but the outcome can be a blessing.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

Most of the times cheating will not stop. Unless the other party really wants you, and knows you will not stay if it happens again.

A little manipulative, but focus on your money. When you can afford to give a woman a good life without her working, die, she's all yours. She dont want to lose that life.

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If you are so unhappy about the marriage, you should file for divorce now.. Not later. The earlier you do it, the better you get your life back, and the less you need to share. Assuming you makes lots of money, you will need to be sharing with her if you get the divorce later.

Also since you are both still young, you have a better chance of seeking your own happiness.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

yes i agree with this. but before jumping to divorce need to see if it can be worked out.

Actually she has always earned more than me, plus no kids (we both don't want). We each use our own money from our own personal accounts for personal spending but have joint account for utilities and conservancy fees + joint expenses like groceries. Flat also is co-ownership. Hopefully when the time comes I will not be required to pay any sort of maintenance.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

yea, if both parties willing to work things out and improve, then no need divorce. but if hse really cant be bothered then just divorce dont want time liao

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If her salary is higher than yours, then probably do not need to pay her.

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if during the marriage she was in no way dependant on you and she has no proof of affair outside, i think do not need to pay

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When ur wife/gf refuse sex for a myriad of reasons and don have desire for sex for weeks/months, are they trying to send the signal tat it is ok for u to eat outside? Or are they completely oblivious to the fact tat most guys are horny 24-7 and will fk almost anything with a v. If a guy isnt getting it from wife/gf, then he must be getting it somewhere else......

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This i agree. Then the man becomes the bad guy for satisfying a need. Either that or go become monk.

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bro as long at the end of the day you return home and be a good man you are fine

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

Although it is not something discuss much, but why is there always an assumption that the man is cheating?

it can always be the woman too.

Title was- why do you all cheat? You can mean either party

I know enough women that are cheating on their hard working husbands. I know men who are cheating with married women.

End of the day, life is hard and people change. We will do what we do, and then live to see the consequences.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

Best reference for the topic - SEX AT DAWN by Ryan & Jetta. Monogamy may be great for some. But not for most. Because it may be part of human nature for men, as well as for women, to long for sexual variety. Not all cultures are monogamous. Monogamy itself is only about ten thousand years old and came about with the concept of land ownership, and subsequently, of exclusivity to our marriage partners as well. The fact that cheating is so common, that divorce rates are relatively high, that the sex industry, including porn, is ubiquitous in most places - these are all red flags that are suggestive that monogamy and humans are not a good fit.

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

Hard to say, you'll never know with those bastard lawyers around

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

I haven't cheated...yet but...
most guys will probably cheat, if given the opportunity. it's wired in our dna to seek out new, younger sexual partners. That said, pretty sure my father never cheated.

But that's because he never had the opportunity to do so as a low paid employee working long hours slaving away...but if he had the money and time, he probably would have...especially since my mother was a busy, workaholic career woman

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 

physical touches and sex becomes a tool of blackmail and ransom.