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limking 19-12-2021 10:41 AM

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 
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Originally Posted by kennq1q1 (Post 20999536)
Why not? Many FL offer 2/3hr rates.. paying a sugarbaby also draws a clean line and is considered commercial to me. When you cheat with someone u know from real life, that’s playing with fire and u need to be real careful.. a risk I’m not willing to take

Totally agreed . Save the time & also minus the all troubles . Afterall , nothing is free . If you thought sex offered is free then mostly you're wrong . Still need to pay for dinner , drinks , entertainment..... ect & also time consuming last but not lest still not sure you get serviced or you need to service her . Most important , no ties attached / no emotion attachment .
Wives can be forgiving if husband's are caught whore mongering but caught with a mistress that is a whole lot of difference .

Shadow_warrior 19-12-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kennq1q1 (Post 20999518)
Personally my wife dun enjoy sex. I still love her very much but I dun like to force n i enjoy long like 2hr plus of hours of teasing n playtime. I also need my partner to enjoy the moment so I will feel good and get very turn on. I only go for commercial sex because cheating can probably result in things getting messy esp if the lady is single. To me cheating emotionally and physically is different..

agreed. staying married and staying sexually active in a marriage are totally different things

I do the same. Just pay and settle your needs outside. No need for emotional blackmailing

JohnHanz16 20-12-2021 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kennq1q1 (Post 20999518)
Personally my wife dun enjoy sex. I still love her very much but I dun like to force n i enjoy long like 2hr plus of hours of teasing n playtime. I also need my partner to enjoy the moment so I will feel good and get very turn on. I only go for commercial sex because cheating can probably result in things getting messy esp if the lady is single. To me cheating emotionally and physically is different..

Same issue here. Wife hates sex, but that's the only biggest challenge in our relationship. Everything else is good. And me being young and stupid, wanted to save first time for marriage, so was completely blindsided. Rather than cheat with someone I know, commercial is the best option to keep everyone happy

BushTracker 20-12-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kennq1q1 (Post 20999518)
Personally my wife dun enjoy sex. I still love her very much but I dun like to force n i enjoy long like 2hr plus of hours of teasing n playtime. I also need my partner to enjoy the moment so I will feel good and get very turn on. I only go for commercial sex because cheating can probably result in things getting messy esp if the lady is single. To me cheating emotionally and physically is different..

You may think there is a distinction between cheating emotionally and physically. However, to your wife and her family, it is very much the same thing. If she/they find out, they will feel that you cheated. The only upside to this is there is no third party to hurt.

VVoF 24-12-2021 12:30 AM

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How about when women cheat as well?

You never know what happen to a lonely housewife when someone young or sweet talker pop in the picture.

So husband close both eye and cheat together?

Peacekeeping 24-12-2021 02:25 AM

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Exactly. Women can cheat too. I don’t think an ordinary man can tolerate the humiliation of wearing green hat. If want to marry, best to find decent looking gal, fuck her only and keep her happy so she less likely to cheat. If it develops into a sexless marriage, she may find someone else to give her the satisfaction. This is my outsider view as an unmarried man. I can imagine it’s not easy to keep up the sparks in a marriage.

We are living in a world where faith, loyalty and moral values is a rare commodity. See the news so many celebs cheating on their wife or husband, people getting divorced like without thinking...

Peacekeeping 24-12-2021 02:31 AM

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Pls don’t zap me, I just want to see more happy families in Singapore. Hopefully we can reverse the divorce trend

Greenfrog 24-12-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by VVoF (Post 21010047)
How about when women cheat as well?

You never know what happen to a lonely housewife when someone young or sweet talker pop in the picture.

So husband close both eye and cheat together?

Never maintain a marriage this way.

LooksLikeJesus 12-01-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peacekeeping (Post 21010152)
Pls don’t zap me, I just want to see more happy families in Singapore. Hopefully we can reverse the divorce trend

You are like decades late. The fertility rate is going down the drain since 1970s and divorce rate is going uphill since the 1990s

Love your optimism, but the trend is going to continue. Numbers are facts and they speak the truth. Gonna talk about (some) factors which people usually choose to ignore or ignorant about it.

We are going extinct as we speak at this moment. Maintenance fertility is 2.1. Ours are way below that since early 1980s onwards. My projection, in 70-80 yrs time. For every 10 Singaporeans born at that period, least 8 will have both parents that are foreign born.

1) Uptake of tertiary education for women (This has correlation for women in delaying marriage, initiating divorce or choose to be single)
2) Feminism (Female > Male, not Female ==Male.)
3) Astronomical rising in cost of living (You can thank PAP for that)
4) Suppression of wages, esp mid or lower income (You can thank PAP for that)


https://i.ibb.co/6ydZ3mF/fertility-rate.jpg
FERTILITY RATE
https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...fertility-rate

https://i.ibb.co/yXdSm19/divorce.jpg
DIVORCE RATE

Shadow_warrior 12-01-2022 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LooksLikeJesus (Post 21044193)
You are like decades late. The fertility rate is going down the drain since 1970s and divorce rate is going uphill since the 1990s

Love your optimism, but the trend is going to continue. Numbers are facts and they speak the truth. Gonna talk about (some) factors which people usually choose to ignore or ignorant about it.

the topic is why do you all cheat? Lol... relevant info mate...relevant info...

Nicktamer99 12-01-2022 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior (Post 21001717)
agreed. staying married and staying sexually active in a marriage are totally different things

I do the same. Just pay and settle your needs outside. No need for emotional blackmailing

There’s a fixed truth in all of life. Free isn’t free and free comes with a lot of costs. If you’re not paying it. It’s already incorporated in the upfront FOC charges. In the case of Sex. Paying is the cheapest option Free no matter how you may like to view it….IS NEVER CHEAP

LooksLikeJesus 13-01-2022 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior (Post 21044772)
the topic is why do you all cheat? Lol... relevant info mate...relevant info...

I am only replying to user peacekeeping, not the topic. Read the quote again. If you looking for trouble go else where. Time for you to grow up.

LooksLikeJesus 14-01-2022 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Peacekeeping (Post 21010125)
Exactly. Women can cheat too. I don’t think an ordinary man can tolerate the humiliation of wearing green hat. If want to marry, best to find decent looking gal, fuck her only and keep her happy so she less likely to cheat. If it develops into a sexless marriage, she may find someone else to give her the satisfaction. This is my outsider view as an unmarried man. I can imagine it’s not easy to keep up the sparks in a marriage.

We are living in a world where faith, loyalty and moral values is a rare commodity. See the news so many celebs cheating on their wife or husband, people getting divorced like without thinking...

Unless you want to have legitimate children. Modern marriage no longer benefits men. The environment in SG does not foster happy marriages.

LooksLikeJesus 14-01-2022 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior (Post 21044772)
the topic is why do you all cheat? Lol... relevant info mate...relevant info...

It's very relevant. Except for you. :D

Peacekeeping 17-01-2022 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LooksLikeJesus (Post 21046641)
Unless you want to have legitimate children. Modern marriage no longer benefits men. The environment in SG does not foster happy marriages.

There are happy families around or at least both parties try hard to keep their marriage. Children is important factor. Without children it’s hard to have a complete marriage. But even then it’s still possible if both parties can maintain the thirst for each other. In other words, you are screwed if one day your wife don’t feel like bedding you anymore.

LooksLikeJesus 17-01-2022 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Peacekeeping (Post 21050699)
There are happy families around or at least both parties try hard to keep their marriage. Children is important factor. Without children it’s hard to have a complete marriage. But even then it’s still possible if both parties can maintain the thirst for each other. In other words, you are screwed if one day your wife don’t feel like bedding you anymore.

Sure, of course there are happy families in SG. Never said there are none. Whether children are an important factor in a marriage, that's very subjective.

If you have read my previous post on the statistics for fertility rate and divorces. It seems having children or not doesn't mean the marriage is complete or happy. If having children helps, our fertility rate should be least close to the maintenance rate of 2.1 right? Anyway, numbers speak the truth. Ailing birth rates is universal across the board for any developed countries. Just google around for 10-15mins and you will have the answer

Specially after childbirth, the sex dies off. Though you're entitled to your views. But I doubt them. Just ask all the currently married and divorced men in this forum. I'm sure there's a sizable sampling size for you to post a poll.

BatamBro 14-02-2022 03:35 PM

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow_warrior (Post 21001717)
agreed. staying married and staying sexually active in a marriage are totally different things

I do the same. Just pay and settle your needs outside. No need for emotional blackmailing

thx for sharing bro.. would you mind also share via dm which source you usually used to settle needs outside?

helplesslyham 18-02-2022 10:08 AM

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 
why cheat?

wife too engross with her own time barely speaks.

always me who initiated but got rejected sometimes

wants to feel wanted therefore going to ml they will initiated will feel wanted but know it's for the money but at least they initiate

Peacekeeping 19-02-2022 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by helplesslyham (Post 21109993)
why cheat?

wife too engross with her own time barely speaks.

always me who initiated but got rejected sometimes

wants to feel wanted therefore going to ml they will initiated will feel wanted but know it's for the money but at least they initiate

Try entering your wife’s world?

aakumu 22-02-2022 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BatamBro (Post 20581959)
I'm in an healthy relationship but I still have fwb and visit the massage parlours to have my handjob. lol. I do question myself why am I being such a demon and want to just suicide for being such a selfish person.

anyone in the same shoes? healthy relationship but have fwb and visit massage parlours?

Hi bro,
Men are as faithful as their options.
If you can only afford to lose 50 bucks, you will spend 50 bucks on a rub and tug.
if are willing to risk a divorce, you will fuck any girl that want you.
If you were Brad Pitt, the sky is the limit...:D:D

My humble two cents.

lovecim 23-02-2022 03:34 PM

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I cheat but only with prostitutes and ML. Encountered some colleagues who are not bad looking and have some issues at home and quite obvious looking for companionship and probably a much needed fuck. I however went the furthest at kissing and didnt not f any of them. Also becus I scared make her preggy kenna axed at work. Essentially paid transactions the best. Dont need effort, pay get wat you wan and move on.

Peacekeeping 23-02-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lovecim (Post 21119560)
I cheat but only with prostitutes and ML. Encountered some colleagues who are not bad looking and have some issues at home and quite obvious looking for companionship and probably a much needed fuck. I however went the furthest at kissing and didnt not f any of them. Also becus I scared make her preggy kenna axed at work. Essentially paid transactions the best. Dont need effort, pay get wat you wan and move on.

Don’t cheat with other people’s wife. Too many crimes of passion in the news...

engine 05-03-2022 12:05 AM

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Various reason obviously, but the main is you can't be eating plain rice everyday right? Sometimes want the Mala xiang guo, the nasi lemak, the Bahn mi, the tom yam, then if really in the mood and want to spend $$$ then go for the five star singaporean chicken rice. But mainly the FB, FL OR ML can maybe fulfills our desire, have some sparks etc, give us a good time if not step on landmine. Also frequency of this depends on your options and lifestyle. If have home, kids grow up , have car, and can afford to spend the cash, some choose to spend on FB, FL OR ML lor. Help to stimulate the local economy

Tidehunter123 14-03-2022 01:03 AM

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This is a good outlet for me to voice out too I guess. Me and my gf were both virgins when we got tgt and were each other's first serial partner. But upon trying sex and having it regularly, curiosity got the better of me as I started wondering how see would be like with other women.
I guess it also stems from the fact that I've always been very morally upright and abstained from doing things like being a fuckboy, going clubbing or visiting brothels/MLs. Having sex for the first time was like opening Pandora box for me. Now I wanted to try it all and as much of it as I could.
So I came onto this site and visited some of the working ladies on here and enjoyed the experience of having sex to another woman without any obligation to love her for it. It felt primal and perfectly correct to me.
Eventually guilt overcame me and I havent strayed since, its been over 2 years since I last touched another woman besides my partner. I'm still curious about the scene but cheating on my partner just for my own satisfaction, felt incredibly selfish and unfair to do to the most selfless person in my life.
But that's just me.
Happy hunting guys, may the odds be forever in your favour!

Peacekeeping 14-03-2022 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tidehunter123 (Post 21152244)
This is a good outlet for me to voice out too I guess. Me and my gf were both virgins when we got tgt and were each other's first serial partner. But upon trying sex and having it regularly, curiosity got the better of me as I started wondering how see would be like with other women.
I guess it also stems from the fact that I've always been very morally upright and abstained from doing things like being a fuckboy, going clubbing or visiting brothels/MLs. Having sex for the first time was like opening Pandora box for me. Now I wanted to try it all and as much of it as I could.
So I came onto this site and visited some of the working ladies on here and enjoyed the experience of having sex to another woman without any obligation to love her for it. It felt primal and perfectly correct to me.
Eventually guilt overcame me and I havent strayed since, its been over 2 years since I last touched another woman besides my partner. I'm still curious about the scene but cheating on my partner just for my own satisfaction, felt incredibly selfish and unfair to do to the most selfless person in my life.
But that's just me.
Happy hunting guys, may the odds be forever in your favour!

May the odds be forever in your favour haha. Digging at us who don’t have a normal gal to fuck.

Greenfrog 19-03-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Peacekeeping (Post 21050699)
There are happy families around or at least both parties try hard to keep their marriage. Children is important factor. Without children it’s hard to have a complete marriage. But even then it’s still possible if both parties can maintain the thirst for each other. In other words, you are screwed if one day your wife don’t feel like bedding you anymore.

bro, usually kids is the killer blow to the family.

two person also can be happy one.

Lil'Tempt 23-03-2022 11:35 AM

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 
The unfulfillment of a relationship, and of cause cheating is a choice, definitely not a mistake. When I realised that my ex was cheating on me emotionally (physically not too sure), the trust was gone.

Trust once lost, could not be easily found. Not in a year, and perhaps not even in a lifetime. Right now, me and my partner are open about whom we are meeting/seeing, and it eliminates the urge to cheat.

kennyr 31-03-2022 01:00 AM

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Just need sex biology and not getting enough from wife.

rototime 06-04-2022 03:38 PM

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A lot really happens by chance. Like recently, met with some old acquaintance, and started paying more attention to one of the ladies, because she's more chatty and a lot friendlier, and she kept the conversation going, and we made arrangement to meet and do some of the hobby stuff we commonly share.

The thing about our meeting is, we feel connected talking about things we like, like how I notice she's different from the last time?, and how she understand what I am going through at work.. we seem to be like a perfect couple that understand one another better then our own spouse.. Like how she told me her husband didn't even notice any change while a friend like me notice it.

Our conversation from trivial started to get a bit more emotional, like hearing her frustration and she feeling very tired having to take care of everything and in her own words. her husband just go to work and home just to sleep, and don't give one hoot about the family, and these escalated to daily phone chats, and eventually we went out for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and eventually, round island night supper hunt, and motivational pat on the shoulder turn to lending shoulder to lean on, then hugs, eventually turn to kisses, and we ended up checking into hotel, or doing it in the car, and one time, actually made out in her study room fully cloth with my pants half down, of course husband is at work, and nobody is home, and I am actually a friend(acquaintance, not buddy) of her husband, and I actually knew her husband first while we're in the same interest group.

The thing is. We actually don't see ourselves cheating on our spouses, we're just giving ourselves the emotional support and understand that we have lost at home, and never felt guilty, and actually felt a lot happier when back home.

ErikTenHag 08-04-2022 02:52 PM

Re: Why do you all cheat?
 
Monogamy is a human construct, which goes against human nature.

I am not cheating, just following my natural instincts. :D

Jokes aside, it's always down to the fulfilment of some need that one is not getting from the wife/girlfriend, isn't it?

For some it's purely physical, perhaps a specific and particular sexual act (fetishes that the partner isn't interested in or finds gross), or just not getting it enough/at all. Or not getting it in the way that commercial sex can make one feel.

For others, it might be emotional. Especially after kids - most of the conversation centre around the kids and kids' needs. To me, this is the more dangerous arena - the 'real' cheating that can lead to divorce.


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